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Radar vs lidar for police speed measurement

Radar reads a Doppler shift from a wide microwave beam; lidar times infrared pulses in a beam about 3 feet wide at 1,000 feet.

The short answer: two different ways to measure speed

Police lidar is a speed-measuring device that fires hundreds of infrared laser pulses per second at one vehicle and calculates its speed from how quickly the distance to it changes. Police radar transmits a wide microwave beam and calculates speed from the Doppler shift (the change in frequency of the reflected signal caused by motion). Both are used for traffic enforcement; they differ in beam width, where they can be used and how much warning a driver gets.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) trains officers on both under its Speed-Measuring Device (SMD) Operator Training, with a separate module for each. NHTSA writes the devices as "R.A.D.A.R." and "L.I.D.A.R." The lidar module's main text is the SMD Lidar Participant Manual (2018), the student handbook officers work from. Radar is covered by the R.A.D.A.R. instructor manual (2018).

How each one measures speed

Radar: the Doppler shift

Radar compares the frequency it sends with the frequency it receives. "If the target is moving toward the R.A.D.A.R. device, the frequency is increased," NHTSA's radar manual says, and the size of the change gives the speed. One continuous return is enough.

Lidar: time of flight

Lidar works differently. "L.I.D.A.R. employs a time-of-flight method for taking measurements to determine the target vehicle's speed," according to the NHTSA Lidar Participant Manual. Time of flight means the device measures how long a light pulse takes to reach the target vehicle (the vehicle the operator is aiming at) and return, which gives the distance. "When the trigger is pulled, the L.I.D.A.R. transmits hundreds of L.A.S.E.R. light pulses per second," and "The calculated target vehicle speed is therefore determined from a group of time and range measurements." Speed is the rate at which the distance changes.

Lidar uses infrared light at "approximately 904 - 905 nm" (nanometers), invisible to the eye. NHTSA describes its frequency as "about 13,000 times higher than R.A.D.A.R. frequencies."

Beam width: the difference that matters most

The single most important difference is how wide the beam is. NHTSA's radar manual gives radar beam widths of 9 to 18 degrees, depending on the manufacturer; an 18-degree beam is about 320 feet wide at 1,000 feet. The lidar manual puts the lidar beam at about 3 feet wide at 1,000 feet.

That difference changes what the reading means. A radar reading at distance can come from any of several vehicles in the beam, so the officer's visual tracking does the work of deciding which car produced it. A lidar reading comes from the specific vehicle the operator aimed at. NHTSA's lidar manual tells operators where to aim: for oncoming vehicles, normally the front license plate, the headlights or the turn signal reflectors; for receding vehicles, the rear license plate or tail light reflectors.

A 1997 NHTSA-funded study, DOT HS 808 530 (The Effectiveness of Laser and Radar Based Enforcement Programs for Deterrence of Speeding), described laser devices as having a very narrow beam of under half a degree and found them "especially effective in situations requiring the targeting of specific vehicles in heavy traffic." It recommended lasers where targeting is critical and radar for general-purpose use.

Where each can be used: moving, stationary and weather

Radar works from a parked or a moving patrol car; moving radar has existed since 1972, according to NHTSA's radar manual. Lidar does not. "L.I.D.A.R. is currently designed for stationary operations only," the lidar manual states. An officer using lidar is parked, or standing at the roadside.

Weather affects lidar more. NHTSA's radar manual says "Rain or snow will decrease the R.A.D.A.R.'s range slightly." The lidar manual is blunter: "Rain, smoke, fog, and airborne dust particles will reduce the ability to acquire a target."

Interference cuts the other way. Radar is affected by radio-frequency interference (RFI) from patrol-car radios, by fluorescent and neon lighting and by mechanical devices such as roof fans. "Unlike R.A.D.A.R., L.I.D.A.R. devices use infrared light and are not as likely to be affected by R.F.I. sources."

Neither NHTSA manual states a maximum range in feet. The 1997 study tested lidar at nominal ranges of 500 and 1,000 feet (measured means of about 470 and 1,062 feet) and found longer-range use "proved impractical because of difficulties in sighting and resolving" closely spaced vehicles.

Accuracy: the specifications are the same

A common belief is that lidar is more accurate than radar. The federal specifications do not support that framing. NHTSA's lidar specification (DOT HS 809 811) requires speed readings within +1/-2 mph and range readings within ±1 foot. NHTSA's down-the-road radar specification (DOT HS 812 266) requires stationary readings within +1/-2 mph and moving-mode readings within ±2 mph. In stationary use the tolerances are identical. Lidar's advantage is attribution, knowing which vehicle the reading came from, not a tighter tolerance.

Each device has its own failure modes. For lidar, the main one is the sweep effect, an error that arises when the aiming point moves across the vehicle during a measurement: "It is essential that the L.I.D.A.R. operator maintain a steady aiming point on the target vehicle to avoid this effect." NHTSA calls lidar operation "a perishable skill" and requires at least 20 practice target readings in the practicum. For radar, the named errors include shadowing, batching and interference.

The cosine effect, the under-reading caused by measuring at an angle to the target's path, applies to both. For lidar, NHTSA says "This effect always works to the motorist's advantage" and that it does not become a factor until about 10 degrees.

Daily checks for each device

The two devices are verified differently, which reflects how they measure. Radar is checked with an internal circuit test and tuning forks (one fork for stationary radar, two for moving). Lidar, according to the NHTSA Lidar Participant Manual, uses five checks:

  • A light test of the display.
  • An internal circuit check.
  • A sight alignment test, confirming the aiming sight and the beam point at the same place.
  • A fixed-distance check against a measured distance.
  • A delta-distance test, confirming the device computes the difference between two known distances correctly.

On eye safety, the manual says: "L.I.D.A.R. devices are considered Class 1 Eye Safety devices by the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA)."

Warning time, detectors and jammers

Here the difference becomes practical for drivers. A radar beam is wide, so vehicles that are not being targeted can pick it up. A lidar beam is narrow and aimed at one car. The 1997 NHTSA study found that in its Phase 1 tests laser detectors often responded, but by the time the driver reacted the "targeted vehicle's speed was already captured." The study also cited Teed and Lund (1993): 26% of speeding drivers ticketed by laser officers in Charleston, South Carolina, had radar detectors. The study is dated and detector technology has changed since, so treat it as that study's finding.

The study also drew a deterrence trade-off. Because radar can be detected by vehicles that are not targeted, it may produce more general deterrence across traffic; lidar targets one vehicle with little warning.

Jammers fall under different rules. NHTSA's lidar manual states: "A L.I.D.A.R. transmitter when used as a jamming device does not violate FCC regulations." State laws govern laser jammers; Iowa, for example, bans selling, operating or possessing a speed detection jamming device, radar or laser, in a vehicle on its highways (Iowa Code §321.232).

Frequently asked questions

What is the difference between radar and lidar?

Radar measures speed from the Doppler shift of a wide microwave beam; lidar measures speed by timing hundreds of infrared laser pulses per second at a single vehicle. NHTSA's manuals put radar beams at 9 to 18 degrees and the lidar beam at about 3 feet wide at 1,000 feet, so lidar identifies one target while radar covers several.

Can a radar detector detect lidar?

Laser detectors can respond to lidar, but usually too late to matter, according to a 1997 NHTSA-funded study (DOT HS 808 530). In its tests, by the time the driver reacted the targeted vehicle's speed was already captured. The study is dated and detector technology has changed, so treat it as that study's finding.

Is lidar more accurate than radar?

Not by specification. NHTSA requires both lidar and stationary radar to read within +1/-2 mph; moving radar is allowed plus or minus 2 mph. Lidar's real advantage is that its narrow beam ties the reading to one specific vehicle, which matters in heavy traffic where a radar beam may cover several cars.

Does rain affect police lidar?

Yes. NHTSA's Lidar Participant Manual states that rain, smoke, fog and airborne dust particles reduce the device's ability to acquire a target. Radar is less affected; NHTSA's radar manual says rain or snow decreases radar range only slightly. Neither NHTSA manual states a maximum range in feet for either device.

Can police use lidar while driving?

No. NHTSA's 2018 Lidar Participant Manual says lidar is currently designed for stationary operations only, so the officer is parked or standing. Radar is different: it has had a moving mode since 1972 and can measure targets from a moving patrol car.

Where do police aim a lidar gun?

Police aim lidar at a reflective point on the vehicle. For oncoming vehicles, NHTSA's manual names the usual aiming points as the front license plate, the headlights or the turn signal reflectors; for receding vehicles, the license plate or tail light reflectors. Operators must hold a steady aim to avoid the sweep effect.

Is a police lidar beam safe for the eyes?

Yes, by federal classification. NHTSA's Lidar Participant Manual states that police lidar devices are considered Class 1 Eye Safety devices by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. The beam uses infrared light at about 904 to 905 nanometers, which is invisible.

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